Dating and Relationships as Spiritual Girlies

BESTIES! We are together in person, so you know this episode is about to be *FIRE*!!!
 
When Hannah and I sat down in our Mindfully Moody Studio, the air was electric with the kind of energy that only comes from a long-awaited reunion. And we had to get real and dig into a highly desired topic- DATING AND RELATIONSHIPS!

Together in Austin, we peeled back the layers of dating in our 30s—me, engaged and about to  be married, and Hannah, embracing her single queen status. Our heart-to-heart navigates the societal pressures and the emotional rollercoasters that define the search for love in a world where swiping has become the norm.

Hannah and I have been THROUGH IT in our dating journeys. Dating in our 20s was a totally different experience than dating in our 30s. As women, we're always wanting to get inside men's heads when it comes to dating- what are they thinking, what is their goal, are they feeling me?? All of those questions.

And  it certainly feels like the sheer volume of potential partners has made choosing just one seem impossible for men... We tackle that very paradox of choice in this episodes, dissecting how a buffet of options leads to decision fatigue and the relentless pursuit of "the next best thing."

Our authentic conversation about dating and relationships ventures into the necessity of setting boundaries and intentions from the get-go, and we reminisce on how our own dating strategies have matured over the years, especially from when we were earlier on in our spiritual journeys.

Now, we trust our intuition when it comes to dating, making sure that we are in energetic alignment with our potential partner vs. just trying to make something work to make it work...

Join us as we pull back the curtain on the modern dating scene, from the addictive buzz of dating apps to the deep yearning for a soul-stirring connection.

Hannah and I muse on the transformative journey from seeking external validation to finding power in self-love. As we clink our sparkling waters and celebrate the friendships that anchor us, we offer up the wisdom of manifesting the relationships we yearn for by embracing authenticity and fostering an abundance mindset.

So, pull up a chair and let's revel in the evolution of love, relationships, and the art of being MINDFULLY MOODY!

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xoxo, 
Sara & Hannah

Speaker 1: 0:03

Oh shit, oh shit, here we are. That got it again, wow I love this Everyone.

Speaker 2: 0:14

okay, I feel like we're in a studio.

Speaker 1: 0:16

We are the Mindfully Moody Studio, first of many to come.

Speaker 2: 0:20

We are recording in Austin because I'm here with Hannah and she's most definitely in Austin, welcome, welcome, back. Austin missed you. I'm so happy to be here and I can't believe that it's been a year since I've seen you in person and since we recorded a podcast together in person.

Speaker 1: 0:42

We can't allow that to happen again, to go that far, because that was just I know no fuego.

Speaker 2: 0:48

No, it was not good. It was not good, but welcome to Mindfully Moody.

Speaker 1: 0:52

Welcome you guys. You're going to be getting some new energy from us because we are in person, we're vibing and we're excited.

Speaker 2: 1:00

Also, there's just something about holding this mic in my hand.

Speaker 1: 1:04

I know it makes me feel like a real podcast. Where am I going? Where am I?

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going, although I guess when you have the professional studio setups and everything, they got the whole you know. Whatever you call that kind of mic, slr, xlr, yeah, Well we made it here after just doing about an hour of setup.

Speaker 1: 1:24

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Speaker 2: 1:34

Whoopsie, Okay now cheers. That's a good cheers. And, yes, we are drinking sparkling water. Oh, that's better than I thought it would be, but like low key, like taste like a white claw.

Speaker 1: 1:54

The ginger afterchase is not hitting. Okay, this is going to be a fun episode. Like I just want to have girl talk. I just want to like get in it and just like that's literally, you guys are just listening to us. We're just too besties, sitting on a couch catching up and talking about what the fuck has been going down.

Speaker 2: 2:13

Yes, yes, we were here last night talking about dating relationships. So many shifts that have happened in our lives over the past, however many years five, six, seven, eight years and we wanted to bring it to the podcast because I feel like we talk about dating, we talk about relationships, but not as much as we talk about other things, and we're both 31. I'm engaged, hannah's single, so we have like some good different perspectives between the two of us being at the different places that we're in in our relationship journey.

Speaker 1: 2:53

Yeah, and boys, girls and going through it, going through it in the best way, Like just date. I don't know if this is conversation is going to be around like dating, being single, being in a relationship. The collective is struggling with dating, especially people dating in their 30s. Like I'm on TikTok, I'm seeing people like ladies, are we okay? Are we are? Are we all right out there, like what's going on?

Speaker 2: 3:22

Yeah, there's a lot of collective struggle right now with dating and it's interesting because we're coming at it from like the millennial lens. But I think even the younger generation, you know, it's not like it's improving for them either. So, yeah, what's going on? What's going on? And then we also see a lot of people I mean certainly even friends in our personal lives that have been, you know, in a long term relationship, maybe through their 20s, and now they're single again because they ended a long term relationship. There's people getting married. Like there's a lot of shifts, I feel like collectively, that are happening with relationships.

Speaker 1: 4:06

Let's talk about like the struggle, like the struggle that people are experiencing, like what we're seeing, like maybe themes, like why this could be happening and maybe this is just coming from my reality, because this is what I'm experiencing, but clearly we're seeing it in friendships and it feels like it's so hard and challenging to find your aligned partner and like lock someone in and like to find the person that you're meant for. Everybody has this deep desire to find their person right that they can spend the rest of their life with, like society told us to in the movies, and like Cinderella all that.

Speaker 2: 4:43

There are so many layers to find that. But what we were talking about last night, I think, is so valid about there's just so many options, there's so many decisions that people have to make now and dating. It's like this, I think you decision fatigue that's what you're calling it, or we're calling it and I just feel like men, especially in our generation, are just constantly looking for the next best thing, and that is like, I think, one of the main points and why people are struggling. And then women have this collective like frustration about that, you know, and then there's just a lot of I don't know. I feel like men and women so often are just on two completely different pages, like we're reading different books, you know.

Speaker 1: 5:46

I also think like it's like dating apps are cool, like amazing that technology created that, but like I feel like, since we've had the dating apps I don't know the stats on this, but it feels like like probably long term relationships, marriages, I've like gone down or finding relationships and I think it is because it's like you have like a million people that you can swipe through that you have this idea of like oh, there's so many people I can choose from, but that doesn't mean that person's going to choose you as well. You just have these options, but you don't actually know, like if there's going to be a connection there. But I feel like in our brain we're like oh, look at all these options.

Speaker 2: 6:20

like possibilities, these bachelor Exactly, I mean that I can choose from, but like that's not actually the case, because you have to have that connection, you know, because there are not so many options that you're going to end up in a relationship with, there's a deep connection that has to be, built to actually end up in a relationship with someone, but I don't know why. I wish we had a guy on, like going back to when we had.

Speaker 1: 6:44

Kevin on.

Speaker 2: 6:45

I guess we didn't really talk about this that much. I would love to have an. I would love to have another guy on to talk about dating again, because what is in the mail? Dating apps perspective. About this you know.

Speaker 1: 7:06

Right, and of course it it varies, right, I think, between different people. I think there are some guys out there who are simps and like are looking for their wifey, like, but they're probably I don't know what energy they're in. But then there are guys that are just like, let me build the roster, let me just like sleep with girls, let me just go out, and you know, yeah. Then there are people that I think are also don't know like let me just get that go on dates to like for, for getting validation. You know, like people have so many different reasons, which is the same with women too, but I feel like the overwhelming Response.

Speaker 2: 7:36

So I'm just like I am looking for my person guys not wanting to commit or wanting to, like you know, keep their options open to being like okay, we're 25 or 26, you know they're gonna grow up, they're gonna want to settle down. And now I'm like, why are so many of them not growing up and not wanting to settle down? Because now, like my Girlfriends that are in their, you know, late 20s, early 30s, that are dating guys in their early 30s, mid 30s, late 30s, are still experiencing this like roadblock Right, or still experiencing guys that are like, oh well, I'm not ready for a relationship after they've led you to. Yeah, that they are. They've showed up in all of these ways that they are, you know, like so.

Speaker 1: 8:30

That's like Boundaries and dating like 101. You know what I mean. Like for me now, when I'm like going out with a guy, it's like I'm stating what I want, like I am intentionally dating, I'm intentionally looking for, like my partner, you know, and I feel like back in the day where we date, we're like we weren't saying that, we were like ashamed to say like we're, even though we probably were looking for, yeah, looking to be told like we, we didn't care because we were just like wanting validation.

Speaker 2: 8:58

I want to sleep with you oh.

Speaker 1: 9:05

My gosh, yeah, if a guy was like me either. Oh no, like I never want to get married to have kids. You know, I don't really know, just say. I'm not looking for anything serious.

Speaker 2: 9:22

Dating in your twenties, dating in your thirties, like when you're in your Twenties, and it's like you're just seeking that validation. It's like you're just gonna match whatever that person is saying. Like oh you're not looking for a relationship me either. Oh, you're just looking for something casual. So am I, you know, because you're like seeking to get that like yeah, exchange with someone, because if you get that equal exchange, then you're getting Some sort of validation, acceptance, love, whatever it is.

Speaker 1: 9:57

I feel like people have to go through that experience. I mean, like if someone knows what they want, like without going through that experience, like amazing for them, but like I feel like we had to go through and like Experience the shit, to like realize what we actually want and like suffer because it's like without that, how would I have known? You have to like go through the shit in order to figure it out, because the people I was dating Shall we take a trip down memory lane of the shit that we went through. We need to kiss a lot of frogs as if it's done Like my journey is, and and their issues and their shit, but it's like, okay, what can we actually control?

Speaker 2: 10:41

and I feel like that's a shift that you make dating in your 30s too, or as you get older like, okay, we can't control that man have commitment issues. We can't control that. Men think that they have all these options in front of them and you know they get to date four or five, six with you and I don't know. Like you know there's something like that's a tiny bit wrong and they're like okay, let me ditch her and go to the next, like we can't control that and you know what we actually think. Those men, thank you, thank you. Go ahead and talk about it. Thank you to those men. We talk about it.

Speaker 1: 11:16

Should we talk about it? Y'all want the real tea. Okay, I don't know single girls listen up. I don't know if you guys are experiencing this, but I feel like it's like a five date maximum with most of these men and it's like you either get past five date five or you're done, or you got to cut them from the roster because, like at date one, you know it's fun, it's flurry. Date five should still be like the honeymoon face. But there's like a whole mini thing with dating. It's like once you get to date five, you're like okay, do I like this person? Do I actually want to continue spending time with them? Is this person vibing off my energy? And like, typically, like one of the two people are gonna either pull back or both people are gonna Go deep in it.

Speaker 2: 11:54

It's not big and it's not having a while.

Speaker 1: 11:57

Yeah, I'm not, I'm the date five. I haven't been. It's been going.

Speaker 2: 12:02

How it's meant to be. You're right. You're right.

Speaker 1: 12:04

Watch us rewire in the flip side. It's great, it's perfect, it's going perfect 100%.

Speaker 2: 12:13

Yeah, I mean it just. Love this ride, that's a moment, as you're getting to know someone, and I think that date five could actually be date three or could be date ten, like I feel like. It's like a feeling, but there's also a realistic thing of like how much time do I want to invest in someone if it's not blossoming into what I'm seeking? So that is something that you can control. You can control the amount of time energy. Yeah whatever it is that you're giving to someone, and you know, I think we talk a lot about this shift and it's always important dating, to talk about like and Shifting from is this person going to like me, going to be interested in me to? Am I going to like this person and am I going to Because, realistically, I'm interested in me to? Does it even matter if they like you or interested in you if you don't?

Speaker 1: 13:13

return it.

Speaker 2: 13:16

Does it even matter? Like I mean in the sense of yeah, you want to have the person that you're going to be in a relationship with really interested in you. Of course you know, but like, you need to also match that with them. So why do we have this dynamic of like? Is this person going to like me? So why do we have this dynamic of like? Is this person going to like me?

Speaker 1: 13:44

Good question. I think it's like validation. You know like we all want to be enough and I think this want for approval from other people comes from a lack within yourself. Because it's like if you love yourself, if you're fully like see how bad you are, like bad in a good way, like baddie, you know, you just like see all these amazing qualities about you and like you can show up fully in that when you're dating, like it doesn't matter what anyone else's opinion is in that situation, because you already know how good you are and so, like their opinion is irrelevant. And then you just really take the power back and I feel like that's on like magnetic energy and like being in, like being in that energy of like attracting, because you can show up and literally just be the investor and be like I know I'm good enough, I know what I want, I know what my boundaries are, I know what my values are. Are you up to par with what I desire? And you're completely flipping it back on them and you're not even then like in this insecure state of like, do they like me? Because you're just like I'm focused on you and like what you could possibly bring into my life and like my energy, um. But yeah, that's interesting. I feel like everyone I'm sure guys feel that way too because it's like, yeah, that's the whole point of eating. I mean, you're trying new outfits, you're testing out things. you're experimenting with things, which isn't Just like I am, I'm going on dates in order to decide what you want to have long term.

Speaker 2: 15:15

If you desire to have a long term, an agamist relationship with someone, how do you know what you want, the qualities of a person, the characteristics, the type of relationship that you want, if you don't try, try on all of these different people? Oh yeah, that sounds weird, but You're kind of talking about what Sahara was saying, right?

Speaker 1: 15:37

Like trying on like these different characters People, oh yeah, okay, you're kind of like talking about what Sahara was saying, right, like trying on like these different characters, like while you're dating, like okay, maybe I'm going to try being like super in, like my feminine when. I go on this date or maybe I'm going to try to like, just be like my fully authentic self, because sometimes it's hard to fully step into your authenticity. I feel like dating is also a good opportunity to practice this Like maybe go on some dates that would keep you. You're not even really attracted to, just like test out different identities. It's like going on a date with someone that you're not attracted to. How do you even know? Because if you're meeting them on a dating app or something.

Speaker 2: 16:14

You don't even know what they're going to be like in person. You know so like you could, which is why I'm like kind of soured on dating apps, because it's like yeah, you just don't. It's so superficial, you know it's so superficial, and it's a problem for not only men, but it's a problem for women too, because it's like that's another problem, Right. So superficial, like we were talking about yesterday, like you wanting to be with a tall guy Okay, but you could have a guy like you could have a guy that you meet in person, who's you know six.

Speaker 1: 16:51

Oh, you're about to call me out on this.

Speaker 2: 16:53

But you know and like amazing energetic connection that you have with him, whatever. Maybe he's not your typical you know, on the surface looking guy that you would go for, but like there's just this energetic alignment between the two of you, Like you could never tell that through a dating app. You know there's just this energetic alignment between the two of you. Like you could never tell that through a dating app. Okay, True.

Speaker 1: 17:19

True, but also in my defense, let me back this up Like the reason why I want a tall guy, which is like an internal thing, is like I want to feel small. I'm already a tall girl, like I want to feel like someone can like hot Rest me in their arms and I'm like a little baby and like if someone six foot is doing that, like I'm, I'm, I'm. Shout out to the six, shout out to the six feet guys, you know, like that is tall. Some guys who are six foot do think they're tall. People are going to come, come for us People would be in the reviews.

Speaker 2: 17:51

Okay, common Common.

Speaker 1: 17:53

Leave a drop, drop one below.

Speaker 2: 17:58

We need some haters.

Speaker 1: 18:03

I feel like you didn't make it if you didn't have haters but.

Speaker 2: 18:06

But like feeling though. I just makes me feel like I mean, I am also a tall girl and my man is like a six one, six two, and I feel like we have that energetically between us.

Speaker 1: 18:24

There you go.

Speaker 2: 18:25

I do feel like I don't know if I want to say the word smaller, but I do feel like that like masculine, like protection, physically as well, you know, and even when, like you know, we're protection or whatever like I feel like that type of like you know, container is what you're desiring, you know. So like yeah, I mean, I get it. I don't know if the guy that's five, eight is going to give you that. Yeah, sorry to them, but there are so many beautiful short queens, short Kings.

Speaker 1: 19:07

We love you Right.

Speaker 2: 19:10

There's a short queen.

Speaker 1: 19:10

That's gonna. Okay, let's just, are we good canceled for this one? But you're right, you're 100% right. Like I don't feel like I have that many like physical like I need. He needs to be this, like this hair color, this, whatever ethnicity, like it's more just the, the height thing, that like that's like my fit, one of my physical preferences. But yeah, you're right, it's like I prefer it, but I could also sway it. But also with dating apps like you're swiping on people like oh, I don't know what's going on. I mean, you know, these men with the fish picks these men with the peace sign like a selfie like oh my god, they need help.

Speaker 2: 19:52

This is bringing up like remember our business. Alright, we've been trying to create a business since I feel like the day we met. Remember our business idea. When we live together about like mentoring men, basically remember this like I'm pulling this out of like the vault right now. Do you remember this? Like we were gonna create, yeah, like we were gonna like help them, like blow up, basically like we had a whole business idea yeah, because we're like these men.

Speaker 1: 20:31

They need some. They need some support because it doesn't take much. You know what I mean. Like just what does the girl, what is the eye gaze, the women's eye gaze want desire? But anyways, what I was trying to say is like in person, totally, like someone could be whatever height and you'd meet them in person exactly, and I feel like that is a nice, that way, and you're like, oh yeah, I mean, we got to, we got to exchange some something energetic, alignment with someone which you literally cannot put into true words.

Speaker 2: 21:00

In my opinion, like when you have that type of just like I don't know sacred chemistry with someone where you just are so drawn to them and there is just this connection that is unexplainable, like that's what I have in my relationship, that I literally challenges me to even put it into words because it's like it just makes so much sense and it's what I was saying last night about like you can have your list of like I want all of these qualities, but you don't even know how good it could be to even like put that on a list of things that you desire, because it's like it's so much even better and brighter and more juicy, whatever word you want to use then you could even anticipate it to be, you know, and it's like, how do you shift into?

Speaker 1: 21:58

like that's what I want you know it's hard to like envision that when you haven't felt that, though like the, the feeling that you're explaining. Oh, yeah, the only thing that comes to mind.

Speaker 2: 22:25

I guess I'm feeling yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah, you know what I mean, just that.

Speaker 1: 22:35

I mean not saying that I felt that, I definitely felt that in in other like experiences, relationships with myself definitely. I felt that experience before so, but I guess that feels challenging to see that in a romantic relationship.

Speaker 2: 22:53

That's actually really interesting to to think about, like how many women like that, I know, you know in my life. You know, through either like friends of friends or whatever I mean just in community that I know that are maybe in their late 20s, early 30s, mid 30s, that have never been in a relationship where they've experienced that kind of feeling. So you're right, it is hard to even understand. Okay, what is that gonna be like? How will I know? That is the type of experience that I'm having. So, rather like I feel like so many people in society then shift into like, okay, well, I want to be with this kind of guy who makes this much money, who has this kind of job, who drives this kind of car. You know x, y and z, these things that are like more shallow. I guess I'm just gonna say it, not trying to come up with a better word. I feel like it takes people to have a deep connection with themselves.

Speaker 1: 24:00

So to even feel that, to feel that energy, like you're not going to get a guy like that, that's like not connected with himself, not emotionally aware of himself. You know what I mean. So like now we're talking about like the emotional vibration of different people in the world, and like you have to have that vibration to even feel that energy from somebody else. Right, and I feel like they have to have that too. Do you have that energy? Do you think that, like just people who are service?

Speaker 2: 24:27

level. Let's just create a character like Bob working in, working in tag. Let's get into it. I don't know.

Speaker 1: 24:33

You know, go into the gym, go into the gym, drive the gym, yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:36

Here we go.

Speaker 1: 24:39

You know like goes out with the boys on a Friday like not spiritual, Is he in going in, Going in characters? That was also a fun game. Would be like let's say what the name of that person is, what neighborhood they're from, but like if they're not in touch with themselves, like I don't know. You have to have that like connection to like feel that energy Right.

Speaker 2: 25:08

I don't know, because I think that there are people that get in a relationship and are just so in love with each other and like really feel like they have met their person and this is the only person they could be with, and like maybe are not really feel like they have met you know what I mean In the same kind of knowing that and like maybe are like I am in my relationship. You know what I? Mean Like you know what I mean, in the same kind of knowing that Like.

Speaker 1: 25:35

I am in my relationship, yeah, okay, so we're talking about an emotion here. Then when we're saying the energy, energy is just energy in motion, right, like it's just different feelings, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 25:48

And just people having that like energy between people is just like having very strong emotions essentially. Yeah, knowing, and I think that anyone can have alignment. Obviously a deep sense of knowing and knowing and not define it as like intuition in the same way that we do, and not define it as like intuition in the same way that we do.

Speaker 1: 26:12

You know what I think it is. Let me know what you think Like. I feel like people are in love, people have these amazing feelings about each other and that does last forever. But I think what you're referring to is like this soul connection, like you have this like deep familiarity with Raza of like a past lifetime live together and like it's this almost like I don't know. It's like more than love, it's like this soul, yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:37

Many lifetimes you guys experience and it's like that recognizing each other on a different level kind of thing. Do you think that this is not the first lifetime that we have shared together? So I think there is like this is not the first time and that's kind of what. Yeah, like this feeling like when we met each other, even, of just like our souls knowing each other immediately, like recognizing each other, you know our souls knowing each other, and I think that people can have that experience without understanding that it's that experience you know what I mean, and I think that people can have. So I think other people experience that absolutely, that aren't spiritual, that wouldn't think you know, oh, I, you know, I knew you in a past life. Our souls connected. We have a soul contract, whatever, but that experience is still happening for them, you know what I mean. Right.

Speaker 1: 27:41

People don't necessarily have to have that experience to feel a sense of fulfillment in a relationship, because that's still like love, you know, and that's beautiful that any capacity of love, that mutual love.

Speaker 2: 27:52

I don't know. Then another thing that we were talking about is like do you have that kind of knowing right away, when you're dating, if you meet someone you know? and if I go back to my own relationship, I mean I was 25 when resin I met, I was not in really a place that I was like I am seeking my partner for my life. You know, like that wasn't really what I was thinking, but I did feel so, so, so drawn to him and like this, like I wanted to be around him all the time, Like his energy was like intoxicating to me in a good way, because I think that could also be toxic. You know how do you know, Just really going out, yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:43

Well, that's what I'm thinking Like if, if I was to say to you, if I just but the thing is, if I was to say to you let's role play this, I just got, just went out on a first date. I just went on a first date on Thursday. We're vibing over here guys. And I said Sarah, he's not. By the way, I'm not saying this, but this is just for playing, in case he's listening to this.

Speaker 2: 29:11

Oh, I would first ask you why? I just know what makes you think that?

Speaker 1: 29:15

it's what you're going to say to me.

Speaker 2: 29:17

Well, I would first ask you why, like what makes you think that he's the one?

Speaker 1: 29:24

What if I said okay.

Speaker 2: 29:26

So it's hard, because it's hard to me once to say I would trust you because you've done so much work on yourself and, like I don't hear you say this often, you know, like you go on a lot of dates You've dated a lot of people in the past few years that this is not a trend, that you're you know you're showing up like this. You know you're like are you sure? Okay, I think that's a recent trend, recent trend, let's say the past few years.

Speaker 1: 29:59

Okay, I feel like I haven't said that. Yeah, I haven't said that. You haven't been one Definitely trying to in the past. Kind of type of vibe square peg in a circle hole.

Speaker 2: 30:10

But the other side of me is like I got this is like no, I tell you, bitch. No no, no, you need to get to know him better, but it's like I don't know. There's that's something that I'm personally torn on. I don't know, because the deeper that I go into my own spiritual journey, I'm like we have better intuition, we have better knowing. You know, yeah, I just don't know, I just don't totally know because the deeper that I go into my spiritual journey, it's like, well, we know more now, we're more in touch with our intuition, we're more in touch with, like source, you know, we, we. Before, when I was just completely living in the dark, like I was not as trusting of myself and my inner knowing as I am now, you know. So, like I don't know, is there like a shift for that as well? It's interesting Dating. We should have made this dating spiritually or something like spiritual girlie's meeting Wait, we still. okay. I'm I as we talk about it like I do feel like I don't know of.

Speaker 1: 31:23

Like, when I first lay eyes on him I'm going to know. But like I feel like I will know, you know, and you, because you kind of do just have that feeling of like, yeah, whoa, this person's vibe but maybe it does I mean my mom but like I feel like you know pretty quick, like, is this person like someone's?

Speaker 2: 31:41

energy when they met? Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think I'm like, I think I'm like, is this person like someone's energy when they met? Yeah, I mean, my mom says she knew right away. I think that after the first night they went out together.

Speaker 1: 31:52

Like when she laid eyes on me.

Speaker 2: 31:53

They've been married like 45 years now. Yeah they're like yeah, looks like this guy is going to be my man. Back then. They're also like it's different now.

Speaker 1: 32:04

John, now the street got him yeah. I mean, but now we're like so intentional, you know yeah. It worked out for him Like things are just different now, but it's like we, I mean, but it worked for you. I mean, they've been together, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:23

Dating is yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:27

I think it's going to always be a challenge. I feel like it's going to continue to be more challenging as technology you watch that movie, people probably start dating where like AI box or something.

Speaker 2: 32:35

Oh my God, yeah, it was a guy falling in love with it.

Speaker 1: 32:38

Yeah. Like a woman who's like no AI.

Speaker 2: 32:42

But then she like, comes to like real life at the end. I don't know how weird I forget what it's even called. Is that what it's called? It is something like that, though it's love something.

Speaker 1: 32:53

Love.

Speaker 2: 32:54

Anyway, all right.

Speaker 1: 32:55

What's your? What's your final? Well, let's hope, the final notes. What do I want to say, final words?

Speaker 2: 33:04

Final advice on dating.

Speaker 1: 33:05

Final notes I think the biggest learnings that I'm figuring out in dating is like God, everything comes back to self. Love, everything in life is just like love who you are, see your inherent value. Like not of like what is on the outside, but like truly what's on the inside, and like all of the amazing things about you. And like taking over the narrative. Like you decide what you want to do, what you want to do, and like taking over the narrative. Like you decide how attractive you are, you decide how magnetic you are, you decide how smart you are. Like all of these things you decide, and no, no one else can tell you otherwise. Like, as long as you have this deep belief in yourself, like that that is what is true and like what can be true. And also just like I'm just trying to have fun. Like have fun, explore date. Like learn different personalities, learn what I like, learn what I don't like, and just like stop focusing on the end goal and enjoy the damn process because it's fun and I may never, ever have the time again in my life.

Speaker 2: 34:11

So you might as well enjoy the process. Well, it's so true, you always want what you can't have. You know, it's like you're in a relationship. I mean, I'm so, so, so, deeply grateful and committed to my relationship. But, like you know, sometimes I'm like, damn, I wish I could just like watch Real Housewives, you know, in my own home and like be left alone. Love you babe, love you babe. But he's like who the fuck are these bitches? Salt Lake City? I'm like making him sit through the reunion. He's like, okay, what is going on? He's like so, yeah, my final words are he's like what did Heather just say? Like what did Heather just call her? You don't even know what is possible, so don't spend too much time focused on like I'm going to say something that's maybe contradictory to some of the stuff that's out there trying to deeply, deeply, deeply, like visualize who this person is, because you don't even know what could be in a good way. So I think it's more about opening up your energy to an aligned partner, but also allowing the universe to surprise you, delight you, bring you something that maybe you haven't even thought of yet, because that's what's meant for you. So like sitting in a spot of surrender, acceptance, just allowing that to freely come to you, versus reaching. I need this, I need that, I need that, being more in that already. Abundance, mindset, yes, curiosity, I love that.

Speaker 1: 36:06

Just be open to receive and like live life with a sense of curiosity.

Speaker 2: 36:11

First episode of recording in person. I'm like let's do time.

Speaker 1: 36:16

You guys, this is so fun, I know let's get a real studio going because this feels like so much better than zoom. I'm not even on zoom, but I love you guys so much. Bye.